Curse

floppinghog · Jan 09, 2007, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

What the hell are you talking about man. Fruitcakes is funny, assholes is not.

I agree

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

You know nothing about me so stop assuming. And my lonely monk is doing more than fine thank you and I feel good playing like this and that's what counts to me so it's only normal from my point of view I'm not so fond of new professions especially when we just had two chapters with them.

I only assumed more about you, due to your assumptions, its only fair in my book. I'm glad you enjoy what you will, I try to do the same myself. I can understand.

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

And btw I'll learn you something, you can remove a double post here by editing your post and click on delete. You can have the last word as this conversation is going nowhere.

I know how to, but back in my head, I like post counts too. =P And thats the truth, I was too annoyed to bother trying to even edit anything again with the delays in loads.

Not about the last word here because it didn't need to go anywhere to begin with, I'm happy you toned it down there, I'm not here for wars and typing papers about anything really. You just had to get a reply for saying anything remotely like knowing anything about me. Totally rubs me the wrong way, if you were ever around me you'd know I could care less about everything, and anything can be a joke. I'll give you an example just to humor you: "This text is so black." can give me and a friend 5 mins of laughter easily. Yes, we are sane.

Now that you know something about me (whether you actually care or not), Cheers to you, and being a good monk all the way. This is so off-topic its rAduckyoulouse... lol
edit:and check my double post on last page if your bored. peace

=HT=Ingram · Jan 09, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

well if we are going to be dealing with any aspect of Survivors of Orr or From Rin for that matter we will be dealing with characters that have knowledge of the arcane arts academy. that up until that time has been all but demolished from tyria by the searing.

Remember Orr had an extensive Catacombs, and it would be expected that it also had an Arcane Arts academy in its Capital City Rin as Ascalon did.
So Summoners seems logical.

And if it goes another direction that is rumored with is the corsair pirate theme, then the Pole Arm / Trident wilder or Pirate class... So there are a ton of possibilities obviously...

I think we all agree that the next chapter will likely have some of the big pluses from Nightfall, and prob a few things from factions that have been significantly reworked. Like the entire Alliance concept, which seems to be all but abandoned in the Nightfall release (Standalone)

Also anet definitely should make a bonus shrine level available via the other shrines at last. We have 6 gods to choose from, and only 3 take you anywhere. the 3rd being a one time use function per character (DoA). I'm just guessing, but Since we already had 2 with Chapter 1, they decided to skip on that chapter. but they did add one for nightfall, But also made a new god... lol But that leaves 3 left right? So Another trilogy, 1 per chapter would be nice.
* Melandru: Goddess of nature and earth (Mystical Forest realm, several Evolved pets)
* Lyssa: Twin goddess of beauty and illusion. (No Idea... but Definitely Mesmers Galore)
* Dwayna: Goddess of life and air (Perfect for a Floating Castle or Air Realm something like that)

Cebe · Jan 09, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by Brandon1107

casters:

- ward-based

- debuffer

- signet based

- form based

- offensive summonings

melee:

- quarter-staff

- 2 handed sword

- dual wielding swords, axes, ect.

- dagger thrower

(those are ones I wanna see)

Problem is...a lot of these sound too familiar...

- ward-based = Earth Ele
- debuffer = so...a mesmer or necro with enchantment strippers? Sounds a bit limited. Also Dervishes seem MORE than adept at removing enchants. Perhaps you were thinking of removing the effects of shouts or chants? Could just stop them in the first place with Vocal Minority. SOunds like Necros have this one covered.
- signet based = Mesmer
- form based = ok I'll give you that one. Dervishes aren't really "form based"..
- offensive summonings = Rit and Necro anyone?
- quarter-staff =

a baseball player? Or maybe a hammer warrior who can wield a small hammer and a shield..
- 2 handed sword = I guess it's a weapon we've not seen but it'd be too close to warrior to make it better or unique in any way
- dual wielding swords, axes, ect. = W/A - sounds a bit dull

- dagger thrower = Don't sins already have Dagger throwing skills?

Didn't mean to pick on you harshly....I just used your post to summarize a lot of what everyone's been saying. It's just very difficult to think of really unique profession ideas any more. Shapeshifter gets mentioned a lot but I personally don't like the sound of it much, although I have to say, the Dervish Forms have been nicely done.

IF they feel the need to bring out a new profession PLEASE let's have a new caster.

Redfeather1975 · Jan 09, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

I posted 2 profession ideas a while back.

1st was stance based and recieved +energy regen, while in a stance, as the innate bonus for their primary attribute. Most of their stances had -energy regen and changed how they attack with their profession specific weapon.
2nd was a juggernaut of a profession that could do very powerful melee attacks, but had long cast times for their deadly moves and the moves had strict situational requirements such as the target must be weakened+knocked down. That classes primary innate gave +% to partial interrupt/knockdown immunity.

That post is long gone though.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jan 09, 2007, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Problem is...a lot of these sound too familiar...

- ward-based = Earth Ele
- debuffer = so...a mesmer or necro with enchantment strippers? Sounds a bit limited. Also Dervishes seem MORE than adept at removing enchants. Perhaps you were thinking of removing the effects of shouts or chants? Could just stop them in the first place with Vocal Minority. SOunds like Necros have this one covered.
- signet based = Mesmer
- form based = ok I'll give you that one. Dervishes aren't really "form based"..
- offensive summonings = Rit and Necro anyone?
- quarter-staff =

a baseball player? Or maybe a hammer warrior who can wield a small hammer and a shield..
- 2 handed sword = I guess it's a weapon we've not seen but it'd be too close to warrior to make it better or unique in any way
- dual wielding swords, axes, ect. = W/A - sounds a bit dull

- dagger thrower = Don't sins already have Dagger throwing skills?

Didn't mean to pick on you harshly....I just used your post to summarize a lot of what everyone's been saying. It's just very difficult to think of really unique profession ideas any more. Shapeshifter gets mentioned a lot but I personally don't like the sound of it much, although I have to say, the Dervish Forms have been nicely done.

IF they feel the need to bring out a new profession PLEASE let's have a new caster.

Yes sins do have dagger throwing skills. Dual Weilding Chars are basically gonna just be assassins. 2 Handed swords Axes, well we dont need them u can already use swords etc it would add nothing new. A Quarter staff type would play vurtually the same as a Dervish's Sycthe, that adds nothing new. Dervishes arnt fully Form based but with that game mechanic now prefected im sure Anet would add similar skills to older classes in the next campaign. and yes all teh others we already have.

If Anet are gonna add new classes they need to be something Different to what we already have much like they did when they added an AoE melee char and a Team buffer. (ie Dervish and Paragon)

Sophitia Leafblade · Jan 09, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

well if we are going to be dealing with any aspect of Survivors of Orr or From Rin for that matter we will be dealing with characters that have knowledge of the arcane arts academy. that up until that time has been all but demolished from tyria by the searing.

Remember Orr had an extensive Catacombs, and it would be expected that it also had an Arcane Arts academy in its Capital City Rin as Ascalon did.
So Summoners seems logical.

And if it goes another direction that is rumored with is the corsair pirate theme, then the Pole Arm / Trident wilder or Pirate class... So there are a ton of possibilities obviously...

I think we all agree that the next chapter will likely have some of the big pluses from Nightfall, and prob a few things from factions that have been significantly reworked. Like the entire Alliance concept, which seems to be all but abandoned in the Nightfall release (Standalone)

Also anet definitely should make a bonus shrine level available via the other shrines at last. We have 6 gods to choose from, and only 3 take you anywhere. the 3rd being a one time use function per character (DoA). I'm just guessing, but Since we already had 2 with Chapter 1, they decided to skip on that chapter. but they did add one for nightfall, But also made a new god... lol But that leaves 3 left right? So Another trilogy, 1 per chapter would be nice.
* Melandru: Goddess of nature and earth (Mystical Forest realm, several Evolved pets)
* Lyssa: Twin goddess of beauty and illusion. (No Idea... but Definitely Mesmers Galore)
* Dwayna: Goddess of life and air (Perfect for a Floating Castle or Air Realm something like that)

Orr never had an academy of Arts, ascalon was unique in having them. It says in the lore that some rich people from Kryta and Orr would sent there children to he ascalon academys (since obviously the other kingdoms didnt have as high prestige academys)

Pirates have already been in 2 campaigns so far, the Crimson skulls etc. in Cantha, the ones at the start of Istan in Elona. They could make them play a bigger role but the storyline would be somewhat lacking, all pirates really want is money, treasure and teh freedom to do what they want, they dont care about much else. so theres not motive for them to do anything but plunder ships and treasure.

Reza · Jan 09, 2007, 11:20 AM // 11:20

i hope for 4 new professions instead of 2

just to be diffrent

Tact · Jan 09, 2007, 12:19 PM // 12:19

I'm not hoping for any new professions.

Still, if Anet introduces two more professions, it should be the Bard and Jester =)

natuxatu · Jan 09, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I know everyone says that now.. but I still don't see people jumping for joy when they announce "No new professions!"

And again just because you people hope for no new professions, don't mean the game will be better by defult... it just means there would be any new professions..

mask316 · Jan 09, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

I hope there is new professions I have been making them up in my mind for a bit.

What do you think of a manna stealer/heavy damage dealer kind of a bittersweet profession. They would lets say steal 5 manna from there own party members but deal a massive spell to every foe in the aggro circle. This would make for human parties some really serious strategy discussions first.
Or
What about a brute that is somewhat like a kick boxer. With armor like a warrior but there attacks would deal less. However they will move fast until some kind of tiredness slows them down. Maybe this one would be all adrenaline or something, with a small amount of manna only to self heal
Or
Or what about a complete self sacrifice of course you could not be going for survivor tittle but they might be like a single attack that drains your life. The more health they have going in the bigger the effect and they would be able to stack spells like toxic waste, outgoing projectiles and things like that for when they explode but that may be to much like a real life bomber and be upsetting.
Or
A strict defensive profession a bit like a trapper but that would be all they could do. However they would be more a castor with things like defensive shields they could set up. Of course these could be interrupted easy but if they could pull it off the defense would be greatly rewarded for that team...

These are just mind thoughts nothing serious but it is fun to think about different things

Happy hunting and take care

I Mean I · Jan 09, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

what about new attributes with new weapons on chars?Like a maces/clubs line on war or a crossbow line on rangers?

arcanemacabre · Jan 09, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by I Mean I

what about new attributes with new weapons on chars?Like a maces/clubs line on war or a crossbow line on rangers?

I would love that, too. Just add one attribute for each core class.

Warrior - Mace Mastery or Dual Blades Mastery
Monk - Staff Mastery
Ranger - Crossbow or Rifle
Mesmer - Fencing or Chaos Magic
Necro - Conjuring or Rituals
Ele - Ether Magic

natuxatu · Jan 09, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Or they could add that in addition to the new professions. The only problem I see with the new attribute idea is that the skills would mostlikely only be in the newest chapter which would *really* get people complaining... and people without that chapter would have a usesless attribute...

Though a warrior with a great sword or an ele with the 5th element (life/heart/w/e) would be cool then an ele really could heal and end the need for a monk... it's a good idea but we'll see I guess.

FoxBat · Jan 09, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Here's a wierd spin on implementing new attribute lines for old classes.

What if there were some secondary-only classes, with a smaller set of skills and only 1 or 2 attributes. There might be a "crossbow-user" class with highly-costed skills so it would mostly be the ranger's purview with expertise. Or a "dual axe-wielder" class with minimal self defense, so that warriors with their huge AL are most likely to use it. These skills would either be balanced with the idea in mind that there are no runes for them, or else there could be universal runes that any class could wear. (It's essential that there are no "passive effects" like the primary attributes in the sub-classes then, to prevent people exploiting 3 classes at once!)

This gets the basic idea of new attributes across, without ticking off non-expansion buyers or continually expanding the attribute lines till they fall off the screen, and it helps cut down on the power creep of too many skill combinations, without Anet needing to go through the trouble of complete new professions or people having to roll new characters to play them.

Neriandal Freit · Jan 09, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

I would love that, too. Just add one attribute for each core class.

Warrior - Mace Mastery or Dual Blades Mastery
Monk - Staff Mastery
Ranger - Crossbow or Rifle
Mesmer - Fencing or Chaos Magic
Necro - Conjuring or Rituals
Ele - Ether Magic

I'll one up this idea - what if you make the core characters released in example Chapter Four have these new attribute while removing one?

Old Warrior created in Prop-Fact-Night retains Hammer Mastery, but can not earn Mace Mastery.

New Warrior creatin in Ch4 has Mace Mastery but looses Hammer Mastery.

So forth and so on - and I think rifles are a ridiculous idea for this world. Rangers are Rangers, keep them to Bow and Long Ranged related weapons, but not that sort of Long Ranged weapons.

Age · Jan 10, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I hope there are no new classes it is tough enough putting a good group together and balanceing it out.This is for both pvp and pve.

j_unit66 · Jan 10, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

hopefully there will be no new proffesions,the ones we have are enough

Erik Fox · Jan 10, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

I hope for no new professions, that would make 12 professions and 98% of people who only want 5 of those professions for groups...

Nith47 · Jan 10, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15

the 5 core professions are more then enough to handle anything, but i see no reason to remove the option of other classes.

i hope for new professions, if you don't wanna use 'em don't, if you're worried about 'em screwing up your group don't invite 'em - its what we do to assassins

Anet will include new professions, but on the off chance they listen to one of you nay-sayers, don't ruin it for everyone else who likes to have fun and try new things ;p

slightly off topic, does it bother anyone that Balthazar the God of Battle has a 2handed great sword yet no class in the game can even wield one?

SiegfriedDubhy · Jan 10, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

My lil IMO...

If they added new proffesions... it really seems that they would add a berserker type meele class... with dual wielding, heavy weapons efficiency (you get some +attackspeed% for each rank), main attribute would be something like +dmg% per rank...lowered defense (60 or less).

If it was to be a range support-like thing i would say... hmmm... dwarven steamwork doesnt really seem to good an idea to me (at least in this world).. so i have no idea :P.... unless the shapeshifter thingy... could be nice...

Caster... summoner ftw imo... (or conjurer... summons not requiring corpses)... it could be like... every summon gives you some energy and hp degen (like... blood summons, mind summons... sth like that)... so it would basically be like beast mastery, just that allowing you to have more than 1 creature at a time and the creatures could be caster classes and stuff....
main attribute of this class could be either some summon support or a ... wtvr it is called.. having a familiar (customisable with lets say... 4 skills, proffesion and behaviour [and lets not forget appearance :P]).
another possibility could be a... vampire or something... tho it would resemble a necro too much...

IMO it would be a lot more fun to let us get 3 secondary proffesions at once :P... or.. a new race of...mmmm.... cant come up with a name... they would basically be the same as humans, but they would have 50 fingers (as we know the reason for having 8 skills in the bar are fingers :P).... and yes, i do realise it would throw gw out of balance and make it unplayable without a certain immortal superstrong build :P